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HIS physique
matches his formidable reputation in business circles. But the
tall and well-built Ajay Piramal, chairman of Piramal
Enterprises, doesnt talk like the take-over tycoon that he
is.
Piramals latest acquisition is the Rs. 105-crore Boehringer
Mannheim India Ltd (BMIL), the Indian arm of the German
healthcare giant Boehringer Mannheim AG.
This is his tenth take-over in the last 15 years and the fifth in
the pharmaceutical sector. With the takeover of Boehringer,
Piramal, 41, is now among the top five pharma players in the
country with a combined sales of Rs 440 crore last year.
His first acquisition was Nicholas pharmaceuticals in 1988, the
second was Roche Products in 1993 followed by Sumitra Pharma in
1995 and Lactocalamine last year.
The Rs 900-crore Piramal Enterprises has five public limited
companies and four joint ventures. His flagship is the Rs
450-crore Morarjee Goculdas spinning and Weaving Company, one of
the oldest and largest composite mills in the country.
In the past, Piramal has managed to pull off the Impossible and
transformed sinking companies into profit ventures. But can he
repeat his success with Boehringer?
Piramal took over the company when it was facing criminal and
civil cases. In September last, contaminated Comsat Forte, an
antibiotic manufactured at its Thane factory, led to the death of
three people; more than 20 had to be hospitalised.
But Piramal believes Boehringer has bright prospects because of
its excellent product lines. Besides, it is the largest player in
diagnostic products in the world. Mergers make better business
sense as it gives him ready-made research and development
facilities. He can concentrate on marketing and distribution.
Piramal is getting ready for the year 2005 when the GATT
agreement comes into effect. He will then be allowed to
manufacture only patented drugs. Mergers will provide a steady
supply of products.
Piramal had demonstrated his management and marketing skills when
he acquired the Swiss giant Roche which couldnt introduce
any new product in the market for 16 years. After it was taken
over by Piramal, Roche launched six new products.
Such is his reputation that Piramal claimed, "any MNC pharma
company approaches us first if it has decided to sell out."
Meanwhile, the group recently brought together Nicholas Piramal
India Ltd. Boehringer Mannheim Indian Ltd and the pharmaceuticals
business of Piramal Healthcare Ltd to create a Rs 500 crore
consolidated venture. His wife Swati Piramal is the medical
director of Piramal healthcare limited.
Excerpts from an interview
with Piramal:
What next after Boehringer Mannheim AG?
There is a strategy. We dont operate on impulse. At the
moment there is nothing on the cards. If there is a niche which
will fit into our business, we will go for that.
What are your plans for Boehringer?
Boehringer had a few problems in India. A drug called Comsat led
to an unfortunate incident in which two people died. The factory
was asked to close down. We have discontinued the product and we
are revamping the factory. Boehringer was making losses last year
and there was a huge outflow because of interests. We have done
some financial restructuring.
But the major problem with Boehringer was that it could not
introduce new products which is what we are now doing. When the
field forces of Boehringer as well as Nicholas and Piramal
Healthcare join we will be huge and we will be able to
effectively market the product. We will revamp the manufacturing
at Thane and we are upgrading the Mahad plant. It should turn
around next year.
But the timing of the take-over wasnt right.
Yeah the timing was bad. It was an unfortunate incident. But I
think we have got good manufacturing practices, we have got good
controls in other places so we thought we could rectify this. It
was not the best time but you cant help it.
How are you handling the civil and criminal
liabilities?
The civil liabilities are on the company. Criminal liabilities
are on individuals. We are trying to do all the changes, upgrade
the manufacturing.
What are the advantages of taking over? Does it
save a lot of time?
Thats right. Taking over a company like Boehringer saves a
lot of time because they were the number one in diagnostics in
the country. It also gives us ready-made access to a field force
of 300 people so you save the time building the field force. More
importantly it would give us access to all their new products
which is significant. They have a very rich product pipeline.
This is a big benefit once the Intellectual Property Rights come
into being.
With so many acquisitions and so many companies is
there any conflict of products?
Not with the major products. We will discontinue the minor
products which overlap.
Are you looking at a group merger?
Yes, we have announced it. We are merging Nicholas, Boehringer
and Piramal Healthcare. The turnover of the Pharmaceuticals
division will be about Rs. 500 crore plus.
What is happening to textiles?
The textiles is separate and we do not want to merge the two.
Textiles has its own identity. We have got into a new joint
venture with a leading Italian company. We have formed a new
50-50 joint venture called Morarji Brembana for high value
shirtings.
Many alliances around the country are facing
problems.
They succeed when people from both sides bring strength into the
alliance. Each partner is bringing something valuable to the
table without which the alliance will not work. Take for example.
In textiles we bring in the Indian experience and our partner the
the technology to make high class shirtings. So we know that our
partner cannot do without us as we cannot without them.
Similarly with Boehringer. They could not manage successfully in
India so we are bringing the management. They are bringing the
products. Similarly with Roche. All alliances go through some
difficult period but it has to be handled well.
In the present scenario can an Indian company
survive without collaboration?
It depends. The world is really trying to become one and there
are so many opportunities and alliances will be the way to grow
into the future. I am a strong proponent of alliances because
there are too many markets in the world, there are too many
products.
Do you agree that the Indian companies dont
have a level playing field?
Yes to some extent. The funds at the disposal of the MNCs
are tremendous. Also if they enter the Indian market and lose
about 100 million dollars it will not be a big thing because
their profits are very high. No Indian company however large can
afford this.
How do you transform a company after takeover?
When we enter a company we dont want to change the
management. Probably its the direction or the way you
handle them that has to be changed. We look at the problems and
find the solutions. Each one is unique.
For instance in Roche we realised that it had very high
inventories so we worked on that. These are basics, so we just
cut down the inventories and the interest costs go lower. The
distributions costs were too high so we changed the method of
distribution. The manufacturing costs were extremely high because
it was in a high-cost location and the proactivities were not
matching so we worked on that.
The sales were not being pushed enough so we pushed from our
side, we introduced new products. So it was a combination, all
basic simple things of management.
How do you select a company for takeover?
It again depends on the company. Sometimes we go because it has
goo products, new products. Sometimes we go because it has the
manufacturing capacity which we need, or distribution, or sales
force. There is no standard formula. Roche for instance got a
very strong product pipeline, it got a very strong alliance with
a world leader. These were very big assets, we got very good
people.
There is a lot of risk involved also. Take
Boehringer
..
I dont see Boehringer as a great risk because the way it is
structured we think it has very good products. I think
financially it has been restructured and even Boehringer has
helped in that.
Textiles and pharmaceuticals are poles apart. How
do you manage?
We have very good people who are specialists in their fields. We
have a very good team which helps. My role is to provide the
leadership.
What is your background in pharmaceuticals
No background as such. My wife is a doctor if that is a
background.
What are you future plans?
We are doing a combination of several strategies. Growth is a way
of life. So we want to grow through organic internal growth. We
are trying to grow through acquisitions. We are also trying to
grow through alliances. So its a combination of all these.
What is your style of functioning?
I believe in making our senior managers entrepreneurs who have a
stake in the business and giving them enough leverage to perform.
I basically trust people. They all want to do their best and it
is for us to take out their best. We believe we are trustees of
the employees, the shareholders, customers and the society. The
role of the senior management is to perform as a trustee. He is
supposed to use them for the benefit of all without any personal
benefits. That is the role we are trying to play, we dont
always fulfill it.
Any takeover in the near future?
Nothing.
Do you get a lot of offers?
We have always got offers. People have always approached us.
How do you relax?
I spend time with may family, I do horse riding. I travel
sometimes.
There is not much time I have for relaxation.
SEJAL SHAH
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